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	<title>Comments on: iPhone in the Clouds with Diamonds</title>
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		<title>By: Chuck Musciano</title>
		<link>http://techtrends.billpetro.com/2008/06/18/iphone-in-the-clouds-with-diamonds/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Musciano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re on the same page.  Certain services gravitate to the cloud.  Others make no sense there.  Moving local productivity apps to the cloud seems silly, but contacts, calendars, and correspondence make a natural home there.  Perhaps they are the 3 Cs of the cloud?  My real problem is with those folks who want to blindly move *everything* to the cloud, just because we can.

All those local eggs are indeed a recipe for disaster.  Disaster recovery and business continuity are required components of any system, personal or business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re on the same page.  Certain services gravitate to the cloud.  Others make no sense there.  Moving local productivity apps to the cloud seems silly, but contacts, calendars, and correspondence make a natural home there.  Perhaps they are the 3 Cs of the cloud?  My real problem is with those folks who want to blindly move *everything* to the cloud, just because we can.</p>
<p>All those local eggs are indeed a recipe for disaster.  Disaster recovery and business continuity are required components of any system, personal or business.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Petro</title>
		<link>http://techtrends.billpetro.com/2008/06/18/iphone-in-the-clouds-with-diamonds/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Petro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, I would have expected you to say that cloud computing is this year&#039;s &quot;grid computing&quot; or &quot;utility computing.&quot; :-)

But I don&#039;t think we have an argument. I was not arguing for or against cloud computing, my thesis was that this type of computing can generate TONS of additional data, not the least of which is sheer replication of data.

And your excellent, as usual, blog entry does not contradict what I&#039;ve said above. Some TYPES of data are better served being on the Internet: calendar, contacts, and email all benefit from ubiquitous access. And you and I use the same brand of off site backup technology -- Mozy.

Yesterday&#039;s failure of the Google Apps Engine argues to your point, but I don&#039;t disagree with it. Some applications, and some data require local access and manipulation.

But if you&#039;ve got all your eggs locally, whoa be the day of a natural disaster.

In the words of George Santayana, Harvard philosopher and poet:

    “Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, I would have expected you to say that cloud computing is this year&#8217;s &#8220;grid computing&#8221; or &#8220;utility computing.&#8221; :-)</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think we have an argument. I was not arguing for or against cloud computing, my thesis was that this type of computing can generate TONS of additional data, not the least of which is sheer replication of data.</p>
<p>And your excellent, as usual, blog entry does not contradict what I&#8217;ve said above. Some TYPES of data are better served being on the Internet: calendar, contacts, and email all benefit from ubiquitous access. And you and I use the same brand of off site backup technology &#8212; Mozy.</p>
<p>Yesterday&#8217;s failure of the Google Apps Engine argues to your point, but I don&#8217;t disagree with it. Some applications, and some data require local access and manipulation.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;ve got all your eggs locally, whoa be the day of a natural disaster.</p>
<p>In the words of George Santayana, Harvard philosopher and poet:</p>
<p>    “Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.”</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Musciano</title>
		<link>http://techtrends.billpetro.com/2008/06/18/iphone-in-the-clouds-with-diamonds/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Musciano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been there, done that, moved on.  &quot;Cloud computing&quot; is this generation&#039;s mainframe and 3270 computing model.  Like the 3270 tube, the X-Terminal, and thin-client computing, cloud computing will never succeed.  People like local control, local data, and local power.  Coincidentally, I just blogged on this, at www.effectivecio.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been there, done that, moved on.  &#8220;Cloud computing&#8221; is this generation&#8217;s mainframe and 3270 computing model.  Like the 3270 tube, the X-Terminal, and thin-client computing, cloud computing will never succeed.  People like local control, local data, and local power.  Coincidentally, I just blogged on this, at <a href="http://www.effectivecio.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.effectivecio.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone 3G: the Second Coming &#124; Tech Trends</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPhone 3G: the Second Coming &#124; Tech Trends</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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